{"id":3489,"date":"2012-09-12T16:22:30","date_gmt":"2012-09-12T23:22:30","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/generoseberry.com\/?p=3489"},"modified":"2012-09-12T16:22:30","modified_gmt":"2012-09-12T23:22:30","slug":"the-reason-for-no-god-the-concept-of-moral-obligation","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/generoseberry.com\/?p=3489","title":{"rendered":"The Reason for No God (The Concept of Moral Obligation)"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>If you&#8217;re following along you&#8217;ll know we are on a new chapter, and that I have skipped a section, Free-Floating Morality. I skipped that section because Keller makes no actual claims in it, but instead relates an anecdote about people who don&#8217;t know why they believe what they believe. This, like all anecdotes, provides nothing in the way of evidence, the section exists only as a precursor to Keller&#8217;s larger point.<\/p>\n<p>In this section Keller asserts that all people feel a set of absolute moral values and moral obligations. He says everyone believes that there are some things that are wrong regardless of what the people doing them think. That&#8217;s pretty much all he claims in this section.<\/p>\n<p>Amazingly enough I&#8217;m going to disagree even with this assertion. I don&#8217;t think this is true of everyone, or anyone. I don&#8217;t hold the false dichotomy alternative position Keller offers, that of absolute relativism either, however. I certainly believe that people are doing &#8220;wrong&#8221; things, even if they think they&#8217;re doing &#8220;right&#8221;, but I don&#8217;t think the things are just wrong because they&#8217;re wrong. There is an underlying reason. Say, murder is wrong, but it&#8217;s wrong because it increases suffering and destroys something that cannot be replaced.<\/p>\n<p>Now, you could say the underlying values are the morals, like that happiness is good and sadness is bad. I would argue that they&#8217;re just logical conclusions based on experience, though, which is not what is typically understood by the term &#8220;morals&#8221;.<\/p>\n<p>I suspect that people that hold classical &#8220;moral&#8221; beliefs are doing the same calculations I am doing, just unconsciously. Morals is a sort of short hand, a stereotype for actions. Instead of evaluating each circumstance to base values people tend to lump them into categories for faster results.<\/p>\n<p>If you disagree, and you believe, as I suspect Keller is leading to, that god has anointed us with a sense of morality, then I would wonder why morality is so different across the globe. There are no universally held morals, which is odd if god gave them to all his children. But I&#8217;m getting ahead of myself.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>If you&#8217;re following along you&#8217;ll know we are on a new chapter, and that I have skipped a section, Free-Floating Morality. I skipped that section because Keller makes no actual claims in it, but instead relates an anecdote about people who don&#8217;t know why they believe what they believe. This, like all anecdotes, provides nothing [&hellip;]<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":2,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[312],"tags":[313],"class_list":["post-3489","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-the-reason-for-no-god","tag-the-reason-for-god"],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/generoseberry.com\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts\/3489","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/generoseberry.com\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/generoseberry.com\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/generoseberry.com\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/users\/2"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/generoseberry.com\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fcomments&post=3489"}],"version-history":[{"count":2,"href":"https:\/\/generoseberry.com\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts\/3489\/revisions"}],"predecessor-version":[{"id":3491,"href":"https:\/\/generoseberry.com\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts\/3489\/revisions\/3491"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/generoseberry.com\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fmedia&parent=3489"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/generoseberry.com\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fcategories&post=3489"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/generoseberry.com\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Ftags&post=3489"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}